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Jim Wagner's avatar

You might appreciate Phillip Cary’s essay, WHY LUTHER IS NOT QUITE PROTESTANT, Pro Ecclesia Vol. XIV, No. 4. He deals extensively with how Luther and Calvin differ on predestination, and where Calvin’s doctrine leads. His conclusion is similar to yours, though not expressed in terms of American imperialism.

Terry Cowan's avatar

Weber draws sharp distinctions between Luther and Calvin. In his vew, the main thing Luther contriubed to the final Calvinist ethos was the idea of a "calling" in life, something completely new to the faith.

JustPlainBill's avatar

The closing conversation reminds me of the Middle Eastern story of the servant who was caught stealing from his master. When his master started to beat him, he said "Please, please, master, do not beat me! It was my destiny to steal from you." Whereupon the master replied, "And mine to beat you for it."

IcarusDOS's avatar

Closing overheard conversation is meme-worthy. Bless both of them.