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Tayelrand@Gmail.com's avatar

It is a valid question. In spite of American think tank policy papers not openly mentioning this - Europe's demise is obviously a boon for the US.

Europe's ruling class was captured by US interests a long time ago. Their reward for their services to Washington will be paid out in US Dollars rather than Euros. So they are game.

What adds to all of this is that the Eurocracy itself would welcome another crisis to cement its grip on Europe. These deep state bureaucrats see crises as an opportunity rather than an existential threat - until it is too late for them.

We should also mention that the sanctions packages that the US imposed on other nations over the years have also been carefully crafted to cause maximum damage to US competitors. Often more so than the targeted nations.

But rather than being a prime directive, taking out Europe is more of a fortunate unintended consequence - from Washington's point of view of course.

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JustPlainBill's avatar

An excellent piece, and lots to think about. I am continually reevaluating my theories on such subjects.

Although the US has likely led the effort, I think the Europeans have been in on Project Ukraine from the beginning. My own “tin foil hat” theory is that Europe’s prosperity free future is indeed the intended “End State”, but that it is being engineered by the Europeans themselves.

Why? My “view from 30,000 feet” is that those behind the curtain believe it is imperative to move to a fossil-fuel-free society. They are way, way behind schedule, and now must somehow put their program into high gear to avoid uncontrolled societal collapse.

They know that doing what is necessary to achieve this will be massively unpopular and likely cause, at least, a savage drop in general prosperity, if not permanent de-industrialization. Few are willing to accept this, so several narratives have been propagated, some for decades now, that attempt to create various fears in the general public.

The influence of human activity on the climate (AGW) is one such narrative. If we don’t quit using fossil fuels, the world will burn, so "be afraid."

Covid lockdowns were another. Stay home and don’t consume anything. Covid is what you are supposed to be afraid of, but the “side effect” of the lockdowns was a dramatic but temporary drop in fossil fuel demand and general consumption.

Now the fear of war is being used to cut the public off from these “forbidden” resources by providing a plausible excuse for the disappearance of cheap (Russian) oil. Also, the fear of a civilization-ending war is intended to terrify the public into accepting in advance the coming loss of prosperity—note how various EU leaders have been telling their populations that the need to arm up for the coming war with Russia is something they cannot afford, and will require deep cuts in various social benefits.

But these people are telling too many lies, and they sometimes contradict themselves if we pay close enough attention. Covid brought us masking, social distancing, and official discouragement for travel and attending public events, supposedly due to contagion. But when the BLM protests started, these were all of a sudden deemed unimportant, since “racism is a more serious public health issue than Covid.” (That was a bit of a red pill moment for me.)

Now we have the same leaders that previously urged us to conserve and de-carbonize for the planet now engaged in ramping up Ukraine and various other wars, ignoring the fact that modern war is without doubt the most polluting, wasteful, and energy-hungry activity known to mankind.

Just my two cents, too short for a good explanation, too long for a comment (my apologies) and not too elegantly composed. I’ve been trying to make sense of all this for a long time, reading a lot and thinking a lot. I am likely wrong on some of the details, but I think I have many of the motives in their correct context.

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